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		<title>By: Todd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 16:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is a case of the father dowant to kena sia suay that he is the first stud manta to produce a pup (or whatever yu call baby mantas) in captivity.

Y&#039;know, like the honour killings you see in some communities in the UK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is a case of the father dowant to kena sia suay that he is the first stud manta to produce a pup (or whatever yu call baby mantas) in captivity.</p>
<p>Y&#8217;know, like the honour killings you see in some communities in the UK.</p>
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		<title>By: ron silver</title>
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		<dc:creator>ron silver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 23:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tony,

FWW, infanticide is found in nature but it is usually associated with a new (out of the group) dominant male wanting to ensure his genes are passed on rather than the former male he replaced.  It is hard to imagine that this situation is the same thing.  Not only are mantas and their biology not understood well enough to hypothesize, but any behavior displayed in an aqauarium can not be equated to behavior in the wild.  Its a bit of a conundrum - keeping wild animals in captivity certainly provides an opportunity for humans to see them which they undoubtedly would not have otherwise, but are the animals they see exhibiting the same behaviors they would display if not in captivity?  I daresay the answer is no.  The value of wild animals being kept in captivity is NOT worth the price which is being exacted from those animals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony,</p>
<p>FWW, infanticide is found in nature but it is usually associated with a new (out of the group) dominant male wanting to ensure his genes are passed on rather than the former male he replaced.  It is hard to imagine that this situation is the same thing.  Not only are mantas and their biology not understood well enough to hypothesize, but any behavior displayed in an aqauarium can not be equated to behavior in the wild.  Its a bit of a conundrum &#8211; keeping wild animals in captivity certainly provides an opportunity for humans to see them which they undoubtedly would not have otherwise, but are the animals they see exhibiting the same behaviors they would display if not in captivity?  I daresay the answer is no.  The value of wild animals being kept in captivity is NOT worth the price which is being exacted from those animals.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthias</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 01:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmmm-
sad to hear! but you sometimes find the same thing in dolphins if the father is within the group - he might attack the calf...  a lot of species seem to have such a mechanism - maybe its to ensure that only the fittest survive...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmmm-<br />
sad to hear! but you sometimes find the same thing in dolphins if the father is within the group &#8211; he might attack the calf&#8230;  a lot of species seem to have such a mechanism &#8211; maybe its to ensure that only the fittest survive&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Asther</title>
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		<dc:creator>Asther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 02:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sad ending... :( The baby didn&#039;t even get to live for a month. Maybe in d wild, male mantas don&#039;t stay together wth the females &amp; babies after birth. Kinda territorial thing...

Sad sad, but let&#039;s hope for more births in captivity &amp; may the keepers study of mantas behaviors better to avoid this incident.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sad ending&#8230; <img src='http://www.tonywublog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  The baby didn&#8217;t even get to live for a month. Maybe in d wild, male mantas don&#8217;t stay together wth the females &amp; babies after birth. Kinda territorial thing&#8230;</p>
<p>Sad sad, but let&#8217;s hope for more births in captivity &amp; may the keepers study of mantas behaviors better to avoid this incident.</p>
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